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35. What are some Wide Body and Standard playfield glass dimensions?
This info can only be used as a general glass size guide.
36.Who are the major Pinball manufacturers in the U.S,A.? (Whom are still in business)
37. How to get started constructing a new pinball. Our opinion on game themes.
38. What is the correct pinball leg length for my game?
39. What are Flyers and where to find them?
40. What does "Restored" mean? See QA Number 20 for more information.
41. How to show and find Easter Eggs and Cows on your pinball.
42. What is a Bowler or Bingo game and why can I not find anyone to repair or refurbish these arcades?
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| 35. What are some Wide Body and standard playfield glass dimensions? |
Most modern pinball games use a standard sized playfield glass.
Widebody pinball games can have different playfield glass dimensions that changed with the game's title and manufacturer.
See Tech Tip 6 for more on widebody PF glass replacement.
Pinball Medic does not sale new or used playfield glass.
We are not responsible for any PF glass measurement errors on this page.
NOTE: PF=Playfield. LB.=Pounds. "=Inches.
Glass dimensions are Width" X Length" X Thickness.
All flippered pinball machines use a tempered glass (without the tempered "seal or mark").
A standard pinball playfield glass measures 21" wide x 43" length x 3/16 inch thick (double strength). It is used on most pinball machines, although there are many exceptions to this standard size.
Standard playfield glass part numbers.
Williams 08-7028-T / A-08-7028-T.
Data East / Sega / Stern 660-5001-00.
Game Plan 08-10003D.
Capcom GL00102. Weight: 14.9 lb..
Early solid state Williams wide body pinball machines PF glass measures 27-5/8" x 43" x 3/16" thick. 08-7359-T Weight: 16 lb..
Early Bally electromechanical (EM) PF glass (metal framed glass holder) is 21" x 41-1/2" x 3/16 inches thick. G-337, Weight: 18 lb..
Wide body early Bally solid state PF glass measures 27-1/2" x 43" x 3/16 inches. G-409-1, Weight: 16 lb..
Williams Joust Pinball machine - Measures 25 1/2" x 42 1/2" x 3/16 Inches.
Williams Hyperball and Bally Rapid Fire - Measures 21" x 37" x 3/16 Inches.
Williams Magic Clock PF glass measures 21 3/4" x 43" x 3/16" Inches.
|Wide Body and Game Specific playfield glass dimensions |
(by game name and manufacturer).
Pinball 2000 - Uses a special half-mirrored playfield glass on all Pinball 2000 games. Revenge From Mars and Star Wars Episode 1. 04-12739.1 Weight: 19 lb..
Wide Body glass measures 23-3/4" x 43" x 3/16" thick.
Used on the following games: Demolition Man, Indiana Jones (IJ), Judge Dredd (JD), Popeye, Road Show, Star Trek The Next Generation (STTNG), Twilight Zone (TZ). Williams 08-7028-1. Weight: 21 lb..
Wide body PF glass for early Stern (1980-1982) and other pinball machines measures 24-9/16" x 45-3/4" x 3/16" thick.
Fits - Big Game (BG), Cheetah, Flight 2000 (F2K), Freefall (Stern), Iron Maiden (IM), Orbitor 1, Split Second (SS), Viper (Stern). Weight: 12 lb...
Data East wide body PF glass size is 23.75" by 43" by 3/16" thick.
NOTE:This is incorrectly stated in the Guns N Roses and WWF Royal Rumble game manuals. See Service Bulletin number 99.
Fits: Batman Forever, Guns N Roses, WWF Royal Rumble.
660-5014-00, Weight: 15 lb...
Gottlieb early solid state System 1 wide body tempered glass measures 27-1/2" x 48-1/2" x 3/16" thick.
Fits the following games: ROLLER DISCO and GENIE, Weight: 10 lb...
Wide body tempered glass for Gottlieb early solid state System 80 measures 24-5/8" x 48-3/8" x 3/16" thick. GTBSYS80-W, Weight: 20 lb...
Fits the following games: (1981-10) Black Hole (BH), (1980-06) Circus, (1980-08) Counterforce (CF), (1982) Eclipse, (1981-02) Force II, (1982-06) Haunted House (HH), (1980-10) James Bond 007, (1980-06) Panthera, (1981-03) Pink Panther, (1980-10) Star Race, (1980-05) Spider Man, (1980-12) Time Line, (1981-09) Volcano.
Williams Slugfest pitch & bat baseball machine. 23" x 35.25" 08-7572-1
18.5" x 36.5" x 3/16" Fits - Bally Safecracker, Ticket Tac Toe. 90003 or 08-8103, Weight: 15 lb...
Stern's Orbitor - Measures 24 5/8" x 45 3/4" x 3/16 Inches.
| 36. Who are the major pinball manufacturers in the U.S.? (still in business) |
We will add the rest as time permits.
| Pinball companies and their links. |
The oldest is Stern Pinball (1977-Now) All Solid State.
Jersey Jack pinball (2013-Now) Mostly Widebody pinball.
A small company named Spooky Pinball LLC.
| 37. How to Manufacture a new pinball game. |
We have read many articles about modifying existing machines or building a game from scratch. We tried to do both at the same time making a Plexiglas pinball cabinet and playfield and used a great EM game as a template.
This turned out to be one of the hardest, expensive and time consuming projects imaginable. We never finished it.
Search the internet for a Plexiglas EM and the "Mirror Universe" pinball projects. They are two good exceptions to the "don't build it" rule and can provide information on home built pinball games.
Hey! Keep scrolling down to our opinions on game theme and the general state of Pinball design.
If this construction of new games warning was not enough, go here to learn more about building a pinball machine.
|Custom made pinball games. |
Even if you don't like the theme, game play or the long construction times of modern pinball machines, let the major three remaining pinball companies continue to make them.
It takes hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and parts (woodworking, electronics, playfield mechanisms, CNC machine, screen printing equipment and many specialised parts) to make a modern pinball, at least a good professionally looking one.
Wait for a game with your favorite theme to be made. Play it first before you buy or at least read the opinions of many other players of a specific game (use more sources then IPDB).
After a period of time reflecting on this complex and expensive decision, save some money and buy the game used. That's the surest way to purchase a game you will actually want to play without making one yourself.
| Our opinions on game themes. |
There are too many pinballs based on flopped movies or very old Rock n Roll bands. At least read the script and forget the hype before building another movie themed pinball. Realize the pinball may flop with the movie (remember Waterworld?).
Manufacturers, go get yourself some young people's money and extend the future of pinball at the same time with a wider generalized pinball topic. Also, take the "suits" out of the design process. Don't even think about skimping on the playfield toys.
You cannot wait a long time to produce a good playing and themed pinball either. Old Pinball collectors and arcades are dieing at an alarming rate. Most kids don't know what a pinball is or how to play one (playing on a cell phone doesn't count).
The End Is Nigh!
It would be refreshing to play a pinball with more of a "general theme". Anime ("panty shoots" anyone?), Science Fiction, classic\modern coin-op game, literature. or even a music style (instead of a pinball based on only one band) are all examples of a good theme. This was how it was done in the past fifty plus years of pinball! It will work again. Think of all the royalties the pinball companies could save with a general purpose theme.
Can you image the uniquely American style of Jazz as a pinball? Think of all the classic upbeat Jazz tunes that could be used.
Change the game play as the game is played. Improvisational Jazz is not played the same way each time. Nether should an entertaining pinball. Keep people interested and engaged. Make it hard to truly "beat" a pinball (Oops, pun occurred.).
Devices that randomize the ball's roll, faster open field playfields with hidden paths\targets, multiple flippers (small and three inch sized), powered targets and a half pop bumper instead of slings. All these concepts and a few critical stand alone skill shots thrown in could make the game less predicable. Keep the player's attention for a longer time, dropping more quarters in as a result!.
Some unusual playfield toys would bring back the spark of pinball to the masses. Players could use more then their flipper fingers (Maybe their brains?) to strategies the best way to score big.
New thinking would reignite the pinball industry. Get this game back to being the top coin-op game. Not just a way to deliver a gum ball.
You have reached the end of our ranting opinions. Just know that without new ideals, Pinball could end up as another dead art form like Jukeboxes. The world would be made lesser as a result.
| 38. What is the correct pinball leg length for a game? |
Legs changed in more ways then length.
Legs can be painted\plated with different colors like Chrome, Black, Grey, White and even Green. They can also have or not have a rib running most of the length of the leg.
Woodrails typically used wood legs. No one sells legs for these games. So little information is know about this type of pinball leg.
General rule - Games with deeper cabinets have shorter legs (Example. Gotlieb's Roller Disco uses short legs).
Update: (12/12/2018) We briefly worked on a pinball with the wrong (too short and really rusty) legs on it.
According to the game's owner: A repair shop (NOT Pinball Medic) took his game to their Austin refurbishment shop. When he got the game back, it no longer had the new legs he had put on the game!
The game's owner had spent many hours investigating and then purchasing the correct Gottlieb style legs. He got back a set of legs that were two inches too short, bent and rusty. He had paid this other shop over $800 for a refurbishment.
Pinball Medic could not tell anything was done to the game after months of this shop's work. The game only played for a short time after their "shopping" and they would not come out for warranty repair. Ouch!
This situation will be added to our CCC page
|Pinball game specific leg lengths. |
The word correct is subjective in this question. The formulation of "correctness" in this case is made with the consensus of various manufacturer and other web sites provided information.
It is assumed that all four legs on a pinball are the same length. Leg levellers are used to change the playfield slope and the general height of the game. However, there may be some rare games that use shorter front legs to set the slant of a game. We don't have any proof this situation ever occurred on a commercial pinball.
With this many variables, we have decided to provide links to sites with the most probable answer to this question. Instead of presenting a large set of leg data here on this Q and A page.
We may combine all this information on a separate page at some later date.
PBR's leg page -- a good source for legs.
One of the best preserved pinball related sites had
NOTE: There are many shops that sell pinball machines equipped with what ever legs were wasting space in the showroom. This is a very common issue.
However, most styles of legs are either still being made or someone has a stash of the correct legs for your game. Just don't assume your game came equipped with the right legs when you bought it.
Also, RUST is not a valid leg color. Don't be fooled by a dealer that uses bad or the wrong legs on a game.
| 39. What are, and how to locate arcade and pinball Flyers. |
A flyer is a sales brochure normally created by the game manufacturer to advertise and promote their latest coin operated arcade machine. They usually list the game features and have full color photos of the arcade.
Flyers were sent to game operators, trade shows or game distributors.
Many people collect them when they don't have the space for the actual game or when they like the flyer's artwork. Others want the flyers for the games they own. It's a good relatively cheap hobby that doesn't take up the space of collecting coin-op games.
|Finding Fantastic Flyers for Free. |
Or better yet, collect the real paper flyers.
We will provide a sample list of links to downloadable examples.
If you find a few that you really like, try and get the actual paper flyer. They make great displays for any wall or can be framed and kept beside the full sized arcade game.
NOTE: Much like comic books, hard copy flyers can not be collected for free. Most hard copy originals will have to be purchased.
We didn't get any indication of what games the provider of this question was looking for (video game, arcade (SS,EM) or Pinball). So we will post links to sites and descriptions of what types they list.
nypin -- We like the layout of this pinball flyer hobbyist.
Way more to come. We'll add them when we get a chance.
KLOV flyers -- Source of video, arcade, pinball flyers and other game info.
| 40. What does "Restored" mean? |
We thought we would revisit this and some other commonly abused terms when describing a game's condition or the work that has been done to a routed arcade. The original Q and A on this subject is located at QA number 20
Lets begin with one of the most abused terms. Then discuss a term we like to use and then concentrate on a word that has greatly increased a game's value in the eyes of game sellers.
Shopped is commonly used as a catch phrase for any condition a game can be. Totally bogus and undefined term that can be used interchangeably with the term "Minty Fresh". Shopped is so undefined and misleading that it could be used by an orange colored "person" in government to describe what he is doing. "The wall has been shopped." That would only cause a distraction to the real issues.
Second is the term we think is appropriate for a used arcade. If it has been totally disassembled, cleaned, parts replaced and made to 100 percent operate as the factory intended.
Refurbished is this grand word. You can tell if a game has been truly refurbished. If the work on the game took many, many hours to accomplish and if it didn't damage the game in any way. The operation of the arcade was brought back to as close as possible to the manufacture's original concept for the game. The cabinet could still have blemishes because it was determined the game would be harmed if repainted by the refurbisher. Painting would take away the Patina of the game and therefor reduce the 'value' of the arcade.
Now we get to the real purpose of this Q and A or Tip. This word means a great number of different things to many people. Some in advertisement or sells and additionally, those who live and work in the same reality as the rest of us.
The word is RESTORED.
Defined as - to bring back to or put back into a former or original state by the Merriam-Webster dictionary.
Synonyms for RESTORE are reconstruct, rehabilitate, reestablish, recover and paradoxically refurbish.
Unfortunately, there are other synonyms like modernize, improve and reconstitute. These last three alternative concepts should never be attempted if one is to revamp an arcade to as close as possible to its original, right out of the manufacturer, condition.
The next paragraph was gently assimilated (with editing) from here
The definition of 'restored' changes the longer you have been in the repair hobby. It's purely a relatively ambiguous term.No MODS (no modifying) should ever be used because they were not part of the original game. Unless they replace a part that often breaks because of its poor design or construction. Most MODs, in our opinion, reduce the value of a game. There is no BLING in restoration. For example, pimping LED lighting onto a pinball not equipped with them from the factory (especially on EM arcades).
Ask yourself restored to what state? Original factory condition? Restored to working condition? Restored to an authentic period condition for a game of its type and age? Has it been restored to a functional state that serves its originally intended purpose?
Restoration is an unattainable goal and not a conditional game state. The arcade may have old wood, ink and parts that will never be exactly like what they were from the factory. One can only strive to achieve the same manufacturing as the original factory.
A true restoration can only be done with a time machine and some old original paper money from when the game was made. An approximative restoration can occur after a full refurbishment and with the appropriate new parts added.
What mainly separates a refurbishment from a restoration is when carpentry, re-inking artwork or other extensive work was done after the refurbishment. Very extensive rework can be considered doing harm to a game. In fact, it can lower a game's value as less of the game remains original.
This concept is in direct contrast to many game sellers thinking adding additional non original parts enhances the game. No it does not, in the same way as adding new white gauges or a tacky cheap tachometer enhances a stock 1927 Ford model A car. Do not ask for thousands of dollars more for this truck / arcade because you just screwed the restoration. The value of the arcade has been dramatically reduced, unless you can find a sucker.
By restored, we mean to the original factory condition or if that can not be accomplished, at least to the authentic period condition for a game of its type and age.
| 41. How to show and find Easter Eggs and Cows on your arcade. |
Note: We credit the link to the right for most of this information. Go there, it's a great site.
Cows are an internal joke for the people at Williams/Bally.
Easter Eggs can also be found in video games.
|How to eat your Cows and Easter Eggs. |
Simply go here: Pinball Cows and Easter Eggs for much more information.
Appearing in many pinball machine DMD animations is DOHO. Scott Slomiany (aka. Scott Matrix) created the "DOHO" . It stands for Doris Ho, Scott´s wife.
Also look out for these things: the red button with a telecord (appears in Pat Lawlor designed games), Skull and crossbones, Champagne glasses, 3, "SM" , "Feel The Power" , Bob, "Eat at Joe´s" and the artist/designer himself.
| 42. What is a bowler or bingo game and why can I not find anyone to repair or refurbish these arcades? |
A Bowler's lane can be as long a 30 feet. It can't be set up in a small shop or home arcade.
Bowling pins and some other parts are still being made for most of these games. There is a good chance they can still be fixed.
Bingos are not usually worth as much as a popular EM pinball and can be hard to find a buyer for them.
A Bingo repair technican can be hard to find and this can effect game values.
We can't provide information on any repair shops. So it's buyer be ware.
Bingo arcades have another detraction.
They are considered closer to gambling then most arcades. Some games use a kind of "pay to win" feature before the game starts to make it easier to win a "free" game or tickets. Just like some modern one arm bandit games.
Repair shops don't want to be caught repairing a gambling devise without a license. This is why it's really hard to also find a 8 line video gambling arcade repair shop. Most don't want to be registered for these types of devises.
Here are some helpful repair, parts and game buying links.
Ball Bowler company We think this used to be Big Ball Bowling. We don't know if this is the same company. Lots of game parts and games for sell.
Bingo Cdyn The mother load of all things Bingo arcade. Lots of schematics and manuals. The starting point for anyone wanting to repair, buy or sell a Bingo.
More Bingo game techno-babble.
There are robust repair hobby groups on the web. So there is still a chance you could find someone who will repair these kinds of games locally.
|Bowlers and Bingos, Oh My. |
These question(s) were partially answered when the term "arcade" was used. These are in fact two different kinds of usually EM arcades. They are only similar to pinball because they both use a ball(s), relays and solenoids.
Bowler is short for Bowling. It's an arcade that simulates a bowling ally except for its length of lane and size of ball/puck. Some use a puck similar to a hockey or shuffle ally puck. Some use a mini bowling ball complete with a return lane.
There are a lot of wall hanger Bingo playfields for sale because they do have great looking artwork and can be shipped for a reasonable price. We would prefer they were none on the market because each playfield destroys an arcade.
A Bingo arcade is a simulation of the game of Bingo except a metal game ball is used to drop into a playfield hole to choose the row and collum on the Bingo card(s). Unlike pinball games, Bingos don't have flippers. Nudging of the game is how the ball is controlled.
Bingo can be really hard to repair because of its complexity. They have to scan the cards by column, row and diagonaly to determine if the player has won. Many Bingos have more then one card that can be played at the same time. If you add various special winning conditions like magic squares to change the probability of winning a game, you greatly increase the number and complexity of stepper units and relay circuitry. Some stepper units have more then 60 steps on them and don't share any parts with an EM pinball stepper unit, other then springs.
Both of these games types are usually more complicated and larger then the typical EM pinball game.
Most shops don't have the space or the knowledge to repair them. Even though most schematics and game manuals are available on the web and are free to download.
Note: We like the really large score reel units in some bowlers.
We wish they had put them on a pinball game.
Pinball Medic will not work on these games because of the expensive shop space it would require. It also takes too much time to repair them during a field service call. Shipping the game would also be a hurdle to overcome.
| Note: We assume selling parts for Bingo games falls under the 25 year rule for most states gambling device laws. It's not clear whether selling parts for Bingo machines is legal.
Pinball Medic does not sell parts for, or work on Bowler or Bingo arcades.
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